New CB OE Parsons keeper
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Sonny13
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That’s sad news
At least I know a bit more of their behavior during brumation. This will give some peace of mind
Sonny13
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Definitely not! But the less interest in food in combination with no weight lost, stays one of the observation points. Only now it’s confirmed by my own cham it’s typical brumation thing in a period of 4-5 months. It was really noticeable and almost like an on/off switch.
Sonny13
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Lied a little bit
she lost 20 grams over the months, that’s around 8% of her body total weight. That sounded reasonable to me for almost not eating and still being “active”
Sonny13
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Urgent in need for some advice! Neo is now around 3 years old and this girl had an immense appetite the last week and now the last days she's extremely restless. Trying to escape the enclosure, patrolling every inch of it and exploring the bottom.
Are these regular symptoms for a receptive or "gravid" Parsons? @Action Jackson @Motherlode Chameleon @kinyonga She's absolutely unstoppable and I don't want her to get egg bound. All my enclosures are bioactive and my veiled lays her eggs in the bioactive soil.
Are these regular symptoms for a receptive or "gravid" Parsons? @Action Jackson @Motherlode Chameleon @kinyonga She's absolutely unstoppable and I don't want her to get egg bound. All my enclosures are bioactive and my veiled lays her eggs in the bioactive soil.
BleuSaphir
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It may be is she ready to lay eggs?
I’m going to leave it to someone else to tell you. The only female Parson's chameleon I had that was gravid, came in that way, wild caught, and had many health issues. She did lay eggs and showed a beautiful gravid colouration during the time she was gravid…so I can’t speak from experience.
Health issues caused her to lose about half of her dental arcade. She also needed surgery in the head area for a terrible infection that started out in the mouth area…all of which she came in with.
The vets were horrified at the loss of her dental arcade and the extent of the infection and wondered if she would even be able to eat. She ate well but the infection (pseudomonas, of course) had spread and, in spite of all the attempts to eliminate the infection, it won and she died.
In spite of it all, she laid some very good looking eggs which after 14 months of incubation, I threw away. They were not moldy or deteriorated at that time, but my lack of experience back then said they should have hatched after 12 months maximum…so I tossed them. Live and learn, I guess.
I hope you can figure out when/if she is producing eggs! My fingers are crossed.
Health issues caused her to lose about half of her dental arcade. She also needed surgery in the head area for a terrible infection that started out in the mouth area…all of which she came in with.
The vets were horrified at the loss of her dental arcade and the extent of the infection and wondered if she would even be able to eat. She ate well but the infection (pseudomonas, of course) had spread and, in spite of all the attempts to eliminate the infection, it won and she died.
In spite of it all, she laid some very good looking eggs which after 14 months of incubation, I threw away. They were not moldy or deteriorated at that time, but my lack of experience back then said they should have hatched after 12 months maximum…so I tossed them. Live and learn, I guess.
I hope you can figure out when/if she is producing eggs! My fingers are crossed.
Sonny13
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Thanks for your reply and a shame you and her went through this!
For me the Parsons is new and can’t see any new or different coloring nor sudden weight gain. Absolutely fingers crossed.
Sonny13
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Maybe…..hopefully not!
Motherlode Chameleon
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She sounds as though she is looking to lay. I would put her in a laying bin/enclosure for a while and watch for laying or a change in behavior to something more normal.
Did you ever watch her mate at all 4-6 months ago?
Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich
Did you ever watch her mate at all 4-6 months ago?
Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich
Sonny13
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That’s where I was afraid of and a lay bin is ready.
She’s my only Parson. No mating possible for my girl. She can only see sometimes my male Jackson.
Motherlode Chameleon
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Your female Calumma parsonii parsonii maybe carrying an infertile clutch of eggs. If that is the case you are going to want to put her in a laying enclosure and be ready to take her to the vet for an oxytocin shot (spelling?!?). That is to prevent egg binding and have her lay the infertile clutch. Calumma parsonii parsonii females have got problems when they cannot lay infertile clutches.
Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich
Action Jackson
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Female and male Parson’s can become quite restless when it’s time for them to mate. They will often spend time trying to get out of their enclosures in an effort to find a mate. Females that are gravid will usually start exploring for places to lay but this behavior is different than when the are looking to mate. If your female is indeed looking to mate then there is a good possibility she is developing follicles and could produce infertile eggs.
You should definitely have some lay spots available for her. They can be a bit fussy about where they want to lay so having some different options is a good idea.
It’s been my experience that most females (I’ve had many) typically don’t produce infertile clutches unless they are somehow stimulated to produce follicles. That usually occurs if they can see other chameleons especially males. It’s possible even seeing males of a different species might trigger this.
It can be very difficult to tell if female Parson’s are gravid. I don’t really notice color any changes. They also have pretty stout body structures and can have good size fat pads so visibly it can be next to impossible to tell. Sometime you a palpitate their bellies and feel the eggs but this can take a bit of experience. Having an X-ray is the best way to be sure.
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