alexyboo909
New Member
Alright that makes sense I'll just leave her in for a while.
but yeah I get what your saying , that could be why I wasn't too happy.
but yeah I get what your saying , that could be why I wasn't too happy.
not liking this.
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Hoj
Friendly Grasshopper
some of my guys love handling and some hate it. and some change on a daily basis. one thing i do belive tho, is that a chameleon that has enough confidence and ability to try and fight you of is most often a heathly animal.
its only on my Camo's best days that he ever trys to fight me off,( hes had a rough life ) i acctually like to see him so full of vigor and life.
just one way to look at it
its only on my Camo's best days that he ever trys to fight me off,( hes had a rough life ) i acctually like to see him so full of vigor and life.
just one way to look at it
Benton1576
New Member
Perhaps thats the problem, your handling her too much and she is getting stressed. Try to not free range her for a few days, whilst continuing with the hand feeding and see if that helps at all. If she looks like shes getting stressed, move away from her and go back an hour or so later. Be persistant but not annoying.
My chams are awesome because im persistant and patient with them. My WC Faly enjoys coming out for a wander up my arm occasionally. I think they do learn to trust you in time, regardless of what people say.
CauseNAffect
Member
Here is my reccomendation since I had similar issues
- let your chameleon get acclimated to her new home for a few weeks leave her be,
Then start handling every day, chameleons are creatures of habit, if they recognize u as not a threat they will accept handling, mine fan from me now it jumps on my hand when it's cool with it.
Do this by hand feeding as often as possible, then start slipping ur hand underneath it, never grab or pick up, let you Cham feel in control
After a while it'll b cool with ur hand, an get to know ur face, this is what happened for me, I'd say handle everyday once ur Cham is settled in... It'll help getting the Cham to know u out of habit, I'm doing it with my mellers now n it's a long process but it payed off for my panther
U may also have to accept that this might never happen, each Cham is different
- let your chameleon get acclimated to her new home for a few weeks leave her be,
Then start handling every day, chameleons are creatures of habit, if they recognize u as not a threat they will accept handling, mine fan from me now it jumps on my hand when it's cool with it.
Do this by hand feeding as often as possible, then start slipping ur hand underneath it, never grab or pick up, let you Cham feel in control
After a while it'll b cool with ur hand, an get to know ur face, this is what happened for me, I'd say handle everyday once ur Cham is settled in... It'll help getting the Cham to know u out of habit, I'm doing it with my mellers now n it's a long process but it payed off for my panther
U may also have to accept that this might never happen, each Cham is different
Olimpia
Biologist & Ecologist
I found that for my two meanest panthers, free ranging full time really did help. It did not make them friendly, by any means, but I could pick them up for the first time without it being a trauma for either of us. Which makes going to the vet or whatnot much easier.
I think that living in a cage with no way out and having you -a big scary creature- reach into this cage is terrifying. But if they free range, and they see you come and go daily without any terrifying interactions, I think they relax a little. My two panthers went from lunging at me and throwing themselves from branches when I opened the cage door, to letting me mess around with something like the misting nozzles in close proximity with nothing but them watching me.
So, if it's something that is practical for you, you may want to consider a full time free range. At the very least it can't hurt?
I think that living in a cage with no way out and having you -a big scary creature- reach into this cage is terrifying. But if they free range, and they see you come and go daily without any terrifying interactions, I think they relax a little. My two panthers went from lunging at me and throwing themselves from branches when I opened the cage door, to letting me mess around with something like the misting nozzles in close proximity with nothing but them watching me.
So, if it's something that is practical for you, you may want to consider a full time free range. At the very least it can't hurt?
alexyboo909
New Member
That is a great way to look at it! Po is exceptionally healthy and happy when I'm not near her ha. I've had her since she was teeny and I've poured my heart into making sure she is healthy and fed. you would not believe all the problems I came acrossed within the first few months of having her. that was one thing I thought about when the idea of giving her up crossed my mind, I've done SO much to make sure things are perfect for her and I trust no one with her.
As for everyone else thanks for all the advice. When I come in my room I usually open up her cage door and she'll always just roam out and around. She's not as terrible as I portrayed her, I just had a moment of weakness ...although she does like to bite and she does NOT like my hand in her cage.
TOMMYBOY72
New Member
Panther aggression.
I have only had one panther for about 7 months now. He was very nasty at first and hissed and tried to bite me all the time. I just took my time and now he is seems to like coming out of his cage on my hand. Just move slowly and come from the front and low. I use to keep the back of my hand in a fist so he had nothing to bite to move in close. Now i still keep it flat and when I get close I extend my two fingers and once they touch under his chin on his puffy pouch he submits and relaxes. I have my coffee next to his cage and watch him hunt in the am. Leave his door open and just hang out with him alot I think I grew on him! Dont give up. Good Luck.
I have only had one panther for about 7 months now. He was very nasty at first and hissed and tried to bite me all the time. I just took my time and now he is seems to like coming out of his cage on my hand. Just move slowly and come from the front and low. I use to keep the back of my hand in a fist so he had nothing to bite to move in close. Now i still keep it flat and when I get close I extend my two fingers and once they touch under his chin on his puffy pouch he submits and relaxes. I have my coffee next to his cage and watch him hunt in the am. Leave his door open and just hang out with him alot I think I grew on him! Dont give up. Good Luck.
Elizadolots
New Member
I rarely even try to handle mine. I view them as "watch only" pets. Like fish. I would never think my fish needed to come out and cuddle with me. But I care about them and enjoy them and do whatever I can to keep them healthy.
ibdragons
Established Member
veiled
Hey just thought I'd let u know I went thru the same thing ,everytime I put my hand in there he would lung at me.I fixed it by putting on a glove not too thick and just went in there slo wly and picked him up .he would bite me after many many bites he gave up now I don't use a glove.u dont feel anything thru the glove.before everytime I put my hand in there he would c me pull away fast so he learned how to scare me. N it worked.but the glove worked better he gave up. Good luck.
Hey just thought I'd let u know I went thru the same thing ,everytime I put my hand in there he would lung at me.I fixed it by putting on a glove not too thick and just went in there slo wly and picked him up .he would bite me after many many bites he gave up now I don't use a glove.u dont feel anything thru the glove.before everytime I put my hand in there he would c me pull away fast so he learned how to scare me. N it worked.but the glove worked better he gave up. Good luck.
Robyrango
New Member
Can you just live with the idea of keep doing all your good work to keep her happy and healthy, and maybe never get the chance to be able to handle her?
I bared in mind when I got my panther that I had just to "slave" around him and just never touch him if he wouldn't let me.. That's not the case, but I know I'm lucky! I also heard that veiled are not the friendliest either!
Could be just a phase...
JohnnyD
New Member
I agree totally with ferretinmyshoes. I breed chams and have multiple Panthers and Veileds. They are more suited for owners who simply admire their beauty. My chams range from super friendly to possessed by Satan himself! I really do understand your frustration, however, you might want to weigh which is more important to you. Do you wish to keep your cham and quit taking it personal that he is simply is what he is, or, sell him on here to an experienced cham owner who will indeed take great care of him(if anywhere, this is the place to find that person). Best of luck to you in whatever you decide to do.
alexyboo909
New Member
hahaha possessed by satan himself, makes me laugh.
I'm not giving my girl up until she takes one of my fingers off haha.
I'll keep up the slow movement and the hand feeding, leaving the door open
all of that good stuff.
I'm not giving my girl up until she takes one of my fingers off haha.
I'll keep up the slow movement and the hand feeding, leaving the door open
all of that good stuff.
amanda509
New Member
im not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but try and associate yourself with only good things. only interact with her when you handfeed her, move her to a free range, or sun her...eventually she'll start seeing you as a way to get these good things...it will take time tho, just be patient
Benton1576
New Member
im not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but try and associate yourself with only good things. only interact with her when you handfeed her, move her to a free range, or sun her...eventually she'll start seeing you as a way to get these good things...it will take time tho, just be patient
Total agree. I had to take my Faly, Storm, to the vet today for a slight URI. He gave him a shot of Marbocyl. Hes normally brilliant with me and loves coming out for a look around! Now i cant go near him wthout risking my fingers as he lunges pretty quickly.
zerpda
New Member
handling
I am dealing with the same thing. My fella Gazoo is about 6 months old and he tries to hide from me, its quite comical. If I try to pick him up he will run and if he can't run he will turn and try hissing, then biting. I've learned that the only way I can handle him so far is if I pick him up wearing a glove on one hand, then once I have him and he mellows, I slowly put my non-gloved hand up to him and he will climb on it, then I remove the other glove and he will climb onto that hand. Its the initial intrusion into his home that I think he doesn't like. I'm hoping eventually with this method he may come around, but probably won't. Selling him hasn't even crossed my mind though, he is the coolest little fella. If you dont' have another species that you can handle, maybe you should consider it for days when you want to pick one up. Sorry your having such a difficult time, but like the other poster added, they either see you as a threat or non-threat.
I am dealing with the same thing. My fella Gazoo is about 6 months old and he tries to hide from me, its quite comical. If I try to pick him up he will run and if he can't run he will turn and try hissing, then biting. I've learned that the only way I can handle him so far is if I pick him up wearing a glove on one hand, then once I have him and he mellows, I slowly put my non-gloved hand up to him and he will climb on it, then I remove the other glove and he will climb onto that hand. Its the initial intrusion into his home that I think he doesn't like. I'm hoping eventually with this method he may come around, but probably won't. Selling him hasn't even crossed my mind though, he is the coolest little fella. If you dont' have another species that you can handle, maybe you should consider it for days when you want to pick one up. Sorry your having such a difficult time, but like the other poster added, they either see you as a threat or non-threat.
Synapse
Member
Best advice I can give you is give it some time. One of my ambanja boys used to hiss/hide and get angry at me whenever I came around. I make sure to interact with him everyday and now he's slowly coming around. He's been pissy for the greater part of the last half of the year, but he's definitely much more accepting of me and doesn't hide/hiss anymore.
Maybe your girl is going through her adolescent phase and is moody, you never know how they are feeling. Long story short, they are cold blooded animals, you can't expect them to love you like a puppy would. I have 4 panthers and they all have their own individual personalities. Don't give up on her, and I bet you she will come around in time. I used to get frustrated my ambanja was scared of me all the time too, but as he's getting older he's definitely chilling out. I handled him for the first time in months the other day and he didn't try to headbutt or bite me. Don't give up!
Maybe your girl is going through her adolescent phase and is moody, you never know how they are feeling. Long story short, they are cold blooded animals, you can't expect them to love you like a puppy would. I have 4 panthers and they all have their own individual personalities. Don't give up on her, and I bet you she will come around in time.
I used to get frustrated my ambanja was scared of me all the time too, but as he's getting older he's definitely chilling out. I handled him for the first time in months the other day and he didn't try to headbutt or bite me. Don't give up!
