Prolapse? Bradypodion thamnobates female
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Impossible to say without the concentration. I'd wager that it is diluted. I can calculate it out with the concentration if provided to double check.
coldbloodedAL
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Well..... I believe I found the source of the issue, likely dehydration.
While doing some cleaning, and moving things around today I noticed the reservoir for my brady racks mistking was awkwardly full though I filled it four days ago... Then it hit me, i did not plug the reservoir back into the pump
I had filled it early in the morning before leaving for work in a rush, and that cost me.. So thats a lesson learned well.
She doing great today, eating normally and drinking well
While doing some cleaning, and moving things around today I noticed the reservoir for my brady racks mistking was awkwardly full though I filled it four days ago... Then it hit me, i did not plug the reservoir back into the pump
I had filled it early in the morning before leaving for work in a rush, and that cost me.. So thats a lesson learned well.She doing great today, eating normally and drinking well
jannb
Chameleon Enthusiast
Well..... I believe I found the source of the issue, likely dehydration.
While doing some cleaning, and moving things around today I noticed the reservoir for my brady racks mistking was awkwardly full though I filled it four days ago... Then it hit me, i did not plug the reservoir back into the pump
She doing great today, eating normally and drinking well
Thanks for the update. I was wondering about her. Eating and drinking is a good sign. I hope she makes a full recovery.
Trace
Captain Awesome
Well..... I believe I found the source of the issue, likely dehydration.
While doing some cleaning, and moving things around today I noticed the reservoir for my brady racks mistking was awkwardly full though I filled it four days ago... Then it hit me, i did not plug the reservoir back into the pump
You aren’t misting a lot though; 45 seconds in total over the course of a day. You also mention the odd orange urate. Could the prolapse have happened because of chronic dehydration over the supposed acute dehydration?
I realize the area these Bradys come from has its dry periods but it also has a substantial rainy season no? I’m not sure what the annual humidity levels are but I’m sure they are high too. I’ve watched the trials and tribulations you guys have gone through with this first shipment of the Bradypodion and I’m still baffled at why so little water is recommended.
I hope she gets better for you real soon!
coldbloodedAL
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Thanks Jann
Its a total of one minute, forty five seconds with a RH of 40-50%. I cannot say for sure, its possible and then this was the icing on the cake...
They do get a decent amount of rain in the wild, but im just going by what the breeders are telling me. People who have bred these guys far longer than we have kept them.
ataraxia
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I believe you are correct
I dont own a brady but if i did they would get as much water as they want. I honestly dont believe the initial worries of Ri's the breeder put into everyone is warranted. It simply is down to the set up. Maybe in the breeders set up which may be glass or maybe they are custom enclosures that have limited air flow and inadequate ways to dispose of water. Maybe from these limitations in his experiences he came up with that conclusion. Im just speaking out my butt right now cause i havent seen the breeders set up first hand but its the only sense i can make of it. Like Trace said they do see a lot of rain during certain seasons so they are capable of receiving more amounts of water. Id say if you have proper ways to get rid of the water, give them the water my friend! Just my two cents
showjet95
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Its not one breeder giving guidelines about watering. It is everyone I know that breeds and keeps them succesfully in Europe. I am seriously sick and tired of hearing people that have never kept them say that cant be right or they should be given much more water blah blah. There is a reason they all say the same thing, because Bradypodion DO develop respiratory infections more easily then other species. They should NEVER be kept in glass, and none of the breeders or keepers I know of in Europe do so, with the exception of B. setaroi. I know a few keepers, including myself that only water once a day, and just enough to get everything wet, sometimes twice but its for less then 15 seconds of spraying. All of mine are extremely healthy, and I have a total of 12 Bradypodion. They dont need a constant drip, they dont need a mistking going on for a minute 3 times a day. They do just fine with the parameters Ive given.
Mmcbain1
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I always am a vote for more water but after the post above im second guessing myself. I would consider more water and be sure that you have proper ventilation especially with the RI. Thanks ferret for explaining the meds I think you explain things better than any vet ive ever been to.
Solid Snake
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Glad to hear she is doing better.
Trace
Captain Awesome
Did I touch a nerve?
If the Bradypodion are so sensitive to stagnant water then how come they don’t all have RI’s in the rainy season? How come they all don’t just drop dead after the rainy season in the wild? What caging works for one person certainly does not work for someone else and the experiences of one person does not equal the rule in chameleon husbandry.
If the Bradypodion are so sensitive to stagnant water then how come they don’t all have RI’s in the rainy season? How come they all don’t just drop dead after the rainy season in the wild? What caging works for one person certainly does not work for someone else and the experiences of one person does not equal the rule in chameleon husbandry.
showjet95
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The wild is completely different then a captive environment. We will never be able to replicate the wild of any chameleon where they come from, and its not what works for one person may not work for the rest. I am saying that all of the people I talk to in Europe that are keeping them successfully are keeping them that way, along with me. Thats allll Im saying
coldbloodedAL
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Now now guys... This clearly a subject that many don't agree on, until some one proves they can be kept with loads of misting my husbandry for them wont change... My climate is somewhat similar to what the breeders are keeping them in so im following their guidelines the best i can.
This female is the only one Ive had issues with, the others are doing just fine.
Just to clarify, Its not a matter of stagnant water, its stagnant air... Not sure if that is what you meant or not.
This female is the only one Ive had issues with, the others are doing just fine.
Just to clarify, Its not a matter of stagnant water, its stagnant air... Not sure if that is what you meant or not.
Solid Snake
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In my opinion/experience, the amount of water that should actually be sprayed can vary greatly, and it depends more on whether or not that water has the ability to stick around for awhile or not.
Temp was the biggest factor when it came to misting for me.
The tops of my cages would remain fairly dry, but the dense ground cover held water most if not all of the day, thats outside in a fairly humid environment.
They like dense under brush, they look for water, food, and shelter there. That was my observation anyhow.
Temp was the biggest factor when it came to misting for me.
The tops of my cages would remain fairly dry, but the dense ground cover held water most if not all of the day, thats outside in a fairly humid environment.
They like dense under brush, they look for water, food, and shelter there. That was my observation anyhow.
Solid Snake
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I spoke w Chris Anderson, and he told me that when he was in S.A., he found thamnobates in tall trees, sometimes out of the reach of a 25 foot+ pole, and he found pumilum in tall shrubs and trees, if that helps at all
I bet he did, I bet there were some nearer the ground as well, and you know what? I bet there were some in between.
I dont see how any of that has to do with our captive environments though...
