This shows ventilation on a wooden vivarium.

Panther678

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Would this still not be effective airflow only cause it would a lot easier to keep the temp and humidity up an night. Sorry if I sound repetitive and annoying on this matter. Its just I see very few people in the uk using screen enclosures.
 
Nobody said glass enclosures are a big no-no, it depends or what your conditions are. If you live somewhere where humidity is fine as is, getting a glass enclosure may not be for you. However if you live in Arizona, a glass enclosure may be better because humidity is very low there.
 
Nobody said glass enclosures are a big no-no, it depends or what your conditions are. If you live somewhere where humidity is fine as is, getting a glass enclosure may not be for you. However if you live in Arizona, a glass enclosure may be better because humidity is very low there.
I live in the UK so humidity but more so temperature is hard to maintain. I understand that keeping them without good ventilation lead to RI but was confused because everyone here apart from a few people keep thier chems in wooden enclosures.
 
I live in the UK and have a mixed wood and glass enclosure with back ventilation, I wouldn’t be able to keep the temp and humidity up in my house. I tend to leave the glass slightly open for an hour or so when I’m home for a bit of extra ventilation and also because my Cham has learnt to climb out and explore :)
 
It honestly depends on the ventilation... If there is a good ventilation with chimney effect... Screen on the front bottom or vents low then an open top made of screen you will get the pull that a chimney effect does... Ideally you do not want any enclosure when the lights are housed inside like this one.

Personally this would not be an enclosure I would trust for a chameleon. Lights inside and then you have limited air flow with the way it is designed...

Look at mine... The only parts of this enclosure that is screen is the bottom front service door and the entire top.The sides are solid and the main door is solid. But I get fantastic air flow and my temps and humidity are very stable. Dropping when they need to and raising when they need to. The key is the air flow. Stagnant air is not good. And with my set up, environment, and species I only mist in the morning right before lights on and then in the evening when the enclosure has cooled and the basking lamp has been off for a few hours.

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It honestly depends on the ventilation... If there is a good ventilation with chimney effect... Screen on the front bottom or vents low then an open top made of screen you will get the pull that a chimney effect does... Ideally you do not want any enclosure when the lights are housed inside like this one.

Personally this would not be an enclosure I would trust for a chameleon. Lights inside and then you have limited air flow with the way it is designed...

Look at mine... The only parts of this enclosure that is screen is the bottom front service door and the entire top.The sides are solid and the main door is solid. But I get fantastic air flow and my temps and humidity are very stable. Dropping when they need to and raising when they need to. The key is the air flow. Stagnant air is not good. And with my set up, environment, and species I only mist in the morning right before lights on and then in the evening when the enclosure has cooled and the basking lamp has been off for a few hours.

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Ok thanks there is muji chemelon enclosures in the uk that is similar to that. How would I go about putting the lights on the outside. People here put them on the inside but put a sheild on them and put the basking perch a few inches lower.
 
Which enclosure do you use or did you make it yourself.
I live in the UK and have a mixed wood and glass enclosure with back ventilation, I wouldn’t be able to keep the temp and humidity up in my house. I tend to leave the glass slightly open for an hour or so when I’m home for a bit of extra ventilation and also because my Cham has learnt to climb out and explore :)
 
It honestly depends on the ventilation... If there is a good ventilation with chimney effect... Screen on the front bottom or vents low then an open top made of screen you will get the pull that a chimney effect does... Ideally you do not want any enclosure when the lights are housed inside like this one.

Personally this would not be an enclosure I would trust for a chameleon. Lights inside and then you have limited air flow with the way it is designed...

Look at mine... The only parts of this enclosure that is screen is the bottom front service door and the entire top.The sides are solid and the main door is solid. But I get fantastic air flow and my temps and humidity are very stable. Dropping when they need to and raising when they need to. The key is the air flow. Stagnant air is not good. And with my set up, environment, and species I only mist in the morning right before lights on and then in the evening when the enclosure has cooled and the basking lamp has been off for a few hours.

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The wooden vivarium is designed to have the chimney affect air leaves through the top and gets sucked through the bottom. I could also add more vents to the back or a fan for extra ventilation. Although if I get a jackson I might get a hybrid cage because they need lower temps anyway. Still decoding between a veiled or Jackson but because the temps here are basically perfect for a Jackson I might have to consider it. For humidity at night I could use a shower curtain.
 
The wooden vivarium is designed to have the chimney affect air leaves through the top and gets sucked through the bottom. I could also add more vents to the back or a fan for extra ventilation. Although if I get a jackson I might get a hybrid cage because they need lower temps anyway. Still decoding between a veiled or Jackson but because the temps here are basically perfect for a Jackson I might have to consider it. For humidity at night I could use a shower curtain.
I understand that but knowing if the venting is good enough for chameleons is outside my area of expertise. I know even with exo terra glass enclosures if they are not set up correctly chams get RI's and die because that one has a very small vent on the front bottom but even with that one the top is all screen. Lighting in those is placed on the inside... This makes it so that you loose the top 12 inches with a t5ho fixture and a 6% bulb. Because there is no screen there to reduce the UVB exposure. You would not be able to have any branches closer then 11-12 inches to that fixture. So that reduces your enclosure size as well. But then there is the fact that your basking bulb is mounted inside. This is an extremely high thermal burn risk.
 
Nobody said glass enclosures are a big no-no, it depends or what your conditions are. If you live somewhere where humidity is fine as is, getting a glass enclosure may not be for you. However if you live in Arizona, a glass enclosure may be better because humidity is very low there.
Even with glass enclosures, I still struggle with keeping humidity over 65% on my crested geckos tanks.
They’re Bioactive with a mister.
 
I think I will stick to screen then cause majority of the chemelons that do get RI are kept in glass or wooden vivarium. At night when humidity needs to be 100 percent I'll just cover the cage with a shower curtain.
That is not true though hun. Chams get RI's because of their husbandry being off. Misting constantly and never letting the enclosure dry. This in turn causes bacteria to grow that they breathe in. A glass enclosure with a screen top and even a modified wooden can work but the air flow has to be there so it is not holding stagnant air and the husbandry and set up of the enclosure has to be on point.

But a cham even in a screen cage can develop an RI as well. If they are not cared for properly and their immune system is compromised because of it this allows them to be more susceptible when the cage is not quite right.
 
Great.... I will take my exit from this thread... Not up for all hell breaking loose again.
I don't mean to say what you're saying is wrong. Everything you said is correct. I just want him to get different opinions, ideas etc.
You're one of the most helpful member in the forums, even though I have bump heads with you since day one.
I do enjoy reading his stuff, and I think he is very informative.
 
I don't mean to say what you're saying is wrong. Everything you said is correct. I just want him to get different opinions, ideas etc.
You're one of the most helpful member in the forums, even though I have bump heads with you since day one.
I do enjoy reading his stuff, and I think he is very informative.
I am just not up for the drama... And honestly I can not handle any more bs this week. Your welcome to tag him whenever you feel appropriate. I am just steering clear of threads that he is in or gets tagged in. Nothing against you at all.
 
I don't mean to say what you're saying is wrong. Everything you said is correct. I just want him to get different opinions, ideas etc.
You're one of the most helpful member in the forums, even though I have bump heads with you since day one.
I do enjoy reading his stuff, and I think he is very informative.
I've seen that thread and all the info.
 
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