Veiled not eating in over a week

Bless her - she does look rather large poor girl. My Lily started to look a bit dehydrated and I caught her napping on the Monday - she was dead on the Saturday (5 days later) even with vets visits. They go downhill so fast as others have said. It is heartbreaking though that they can be fine one minute and almost gone in a matter of hours. :(
 
You can transport her in a cloth bag or a cardboard box. Give her a scrunched up paper towel to hold onto. If you have a "cricket keeper" type of enclosure, you can use that, give her something to cling to. I'd cover it with a towel so she doesn't see what's going on around her.
 
I will also add my two cents worth...

That laying bin (if you mean the reddish plastic plant pot) is not deep enough for your female to dig a decent nest in. It also doesn't look very accessible. Go to a plant store and get one of those cheap BLACK plastic plant containers. They are taller than they are wide and come in many sizes. Get one with an opening at least as big as a salad plate... That should be at least 10" tall. Do not cover the top with plants and do not put the dirt/sand all the way to the top. Leave at least 2 inches at the top.

Your female definitely NEEDS to lay those eggs. And it looks like it WILL BE a large clutch. If she was bred, you will need to be ready to incubate the eggs.
 
Well I brought my girl to the reptile store to be seen.. The owner in no way has specialist credentials but he has a great amount of experiance with a variety of chams as well as plenty other exotic reptiles. His outlook on the situation was that she is not ready to lay and is still developing her clutch. His main point was that she is still too young. When I told him I believe she is a year or close to it in age he expressed to me that she was too small to be a year old.. Acurate or not with his assesment and advice I am still open to other opinions. And I deffinately heed the info I get here and am trying to put it all inperspective inthe best way I can. On another note a new screen enclosure was delivered today 24x24x48 and I finally got around to purchasing a linear reptisun 5.0 as opposed to the compact 5.0.. She seems ok other than a fall she took climbing down the side screen. She ate some butter worms and seemed eager to do so.. So At this point I'm am still going foward in attempts to make adustments she needs for laying and trying to determine if she is on the road to becoming eggbound or if she is in fact still developing her clutch.. Fingers are crossed and again any furthure advice and opinions are more than welcome...
 
I've seen stories here of females laying eggs at 5 or 6 months. I don't think she's too young at all. And, size varies. It's a good guide to age, but just like with humans, it's not at all perfect. We all know that a 5 foot tall girl is probably around 12 or 13, but she might be 24 because that's how tall some women get.

Your new stuff is all going to help.

I've read that some people take a female like yours and put her in a separate laying bin, not in the cage, with deep sides (think scrupulously clean trash can). That way you can have a good 12 inches of sand. Put a couple of "climbing" things in (branches, for example). Back off so she doesn't see you. If she doesn't start digging, then try starting a hole for her.

You might want to start getting that plan in your head while waiting for one of the more expert people here to chime in on that idea.
 
They can start laying eggs at 6 months old, possibly sooner. You can see from the picture she has, what looks like, quite a few. I understand that your vet is no longer there, so you need to find a new one. Kinyonga gave some links to look for a vet, I reposted them for you. You may have to drive a good distance to find one. I drive 3 hours to get to mine. Even if she ends up laying the eggs with no issues, you need to have a vet for future uses. As already mentioned, the fact that she has been napping during the day is not good, see a vet, not a pet/reptile shop owner.



kinyonga said:
Here's a site with vet clinics listed...
http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&um...local_group&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQtgMwAA

This might help too...
http://www.inyourarea.net/local2/22616/?gclid=CK3pv_3rgqMCFdLV5wodySMIcw
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jannb, bridgeofaith, kinyonga, do you agree with my suggestion to set up a separate, deep laying area? Do you have advice to make this more successful for her? As my only experience with a female with eggs was a complete disaster, I'd really like some words from people who've had positive results.
 
Elizadolots said:
jannb, bridgeofaith, kinyonga, do you agree with my suggestion to set up a separate, deep laying area? Do you have advice to make this more successful for her? As my only experience with a female with eggs was a complete disaster, I'd really like some words from people who've had positive results.
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Yes, this was suggested by Jannb on the first page with a link to her thread containing pictures. I have been fortunate to have my females lay in the bucket I placed in their enclosures with no problems. Jann's Camille will not lay in anything smaller than that trash can. Sometimes you have to try more than one thing to find what will work best for your cham. Sometimes you have to play around with the laying medium also. Some people have great success with play sand (I have) some with organic soil. Some mix those together. There are other mediums that people have had success with. It all depends on the individual chameleon.
 
The site shown in the cage definitely was not of much use....its worth a try to move her to a big bin for a while...but I'm really worried that she is past the "due date" to lay. I hope I'm wrong.
 
All advice is well apriciated and I will go and buy a garbage bin today. Hopefully she is promoted to dig and we can move on to keeping her healthy.. I have visited all links provided and thank you. Kinyonga the link to a local vet search was helpful n it seems that there are several places near by here in the NY area who post that they handle reptiles. I will call all to decide which is best. An the mustardy marks I believe she has always had them ( unless I am mistaking what marks you ask of) and her girth began to increase I believe this month or late June. Fingers are still crossed she will finally show sum signs of getting ready to lay.. In the event that she does not what am I to assume? And what can a vet do to help other than taking xrays?
 
Thank you bridgofaith for making the vet option clear to me. That options is well understood and hopefully it does not come to that. As of right now I jus now have placed her in a garbage bin with about a foot and change of dirt and two tree branches.. Getting her in there was very stressful for her it seemed and I hope she does well. I really hope this all works out the easy way!
 
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new laying bin
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she got sum dirt on her head poor thin she wont let me take it off
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her new set up
 
If she has done no digging recently, is sleeping during the day (lethargic), sitting low down on the branches, not eating/not eating much, or showing any other signs of going down hill you will have very little time to get her to the vets.
 
Well she hasn't gone near the bottom... She jus hangs as close to the top as she can. It seems she really isn't too happy in there she hasn't been napping durring the day she's been pretty alert. No signs of digging but to be honest I hav never noticed her hanging at the bottom of her cage to begin with. She did get a lilttle more active for a little in her smaller cagebut never seemed interested being at the bottom..It just seemed to me that she was not happy with the size of her enclosure which was 18x18x24.. She even got out at one point and fell off the table her enclosure was on. It actually was after that, that I noticed her change in color and her apitite slow down..I initially thought she was stressed but then moved on to thinking she was gravid. And now it is clear she is lumpy with eggs but with her lack of a search for a place to dig should I expect the worst? Is there a more optimistic side of it all?
 
^^Agreed. She hadn't been eating for a week when you posted this thread, and that was almost 6 days ago. It has been nearly 2 weeks, I think a vet visit is past due.
 
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