eisentrauti
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Exactly my thoughts 
weekend with Furcifer minor
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Motherlode Chameleon
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I could not say if its just a morph, phase or undefined subspecies however there is suposed to be a giant minor chameleon that I've heard of a couple times (mostly John Uhern a reputible importer from Southern California from before the ban) and I think there is a video clip of one in the Chameleons of Madagascar Video. Check it out!
Minor used to be considered rare in the wild and I hear that they are becoming common and more abundant now days. They are capable of adapting to degraded habitat.
Minor used to be considered rare in the wild and I hear that they are becoming common and more abundant now days. They are capable of adapting to degraded habitat.
redtom123
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I spend a lot of time in the middle highlands the "minor area" tapia forest in Madagascar.
I can not agree that they become common or more abudant like you say.
But it is true that they are more closer to villages or farmes because of missing tapia forest.
The tapia forest ist the original habitat for Furcifer minor.
Where is the location for the giant F. minor as you say? I never heard about this species.
Here a pic of our offspring
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Motherlode Chameleon
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Then you would be more of an authority than me about the abundance of wild minors. I don't have a location on the giant minors john used to say he got them in occasionally and I think there may be footage of a wild giant minor in the Chameleons of Madagascar video.
redtom123
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I will update my website about the keeping and breeding very soon
check out the current information here http://www.pantherchameleon.de/?q=content/nachwuchs-furcifer-minor use the google translator on the right side
kind regards to everybody
sandrachameleon
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Beautiful animals. thanks for sharing the photos
redtom123
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You are absolutly right with your skepticism. Here in europe are several countrys with very low rules about animal trading. You will find here on some exhebitions not legal reptiles in bad condition.
All of our minors are registered by authority and also the parents have official numbers in the stud book. We keep this species in the third generation and try to give our best to take care about them.
best regards
Motherlode Chameleon
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Just got back from Canada and kind of never finished up here. My statements about Minors chameleons being more numerous was based on second had information (word of mouth from normally reliable sources). What was said to me was that they were living in peoples back yards and some agricultural areas (I heard peach orchards) that they weren't before.
As far as the Giant form of minor chameleon if it is a goose chase or not the only credible information I've got is word of mouth from an importer and some video of what looks like two sizes of male minors. There seems to be an abnormally large animal (bronze colored male) compared to the rest of the other adult males shown in the video.
However, that is what is totally spectacualr and exotic about Madagascar that there is so much unique concentrated biodeversity there that new species of lizards (and chameleons ocasionally) are still being found each year ligitamately even with deforestation problems. Let me know what you think of the video. If you agree and you see two different size adult male minors maybe its something researchers/ biologist overlooked. The larger male minor chameleon in the video looked the same in color as the one in this post however compared to the others in the video just with longer and wider horns and a bigger body compared to the smaller darker males in the video.
Some biologist say Madagascar makes the Galopagos in regards to biodiversity look like a petting zoo. However it is just not being conserved as well.
As far as the Giant form of minor chameleon if it is a goose chase or not the only credible information I've got is word of mouth from an importer and some video of what looks like two sizes of male minors. There seems to be an abnormally large animal (bronze colored male) compared to the rest of the other adult males shown in the video.
However, that is what is totally spectacualr and exotic about Madagascar that there is so much unique concentrated biodeversity there that new species of lizards (and chameleons ocasionally) are still being found each year ligitamately even with deforestation problems. Let me know what you think of the video. If you agree and you see two different size adult male minors maybe its something researchers/ biologist overlooked. The larger male minor chameleon in the video looked the same in color as the one in this post however compared to the others in the video just with longer and wider horns and a bigger body compared to the smaller darker males in the video.
Some biologist say Madagascar makes the Galopagos in regards to biodiversity look like a petting zoo. However it is just not being conserved as well.
