What do you think about the color?
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bridgofaith
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That's a female, that is her color. Very nice looking girl too. The females don't have the bright colors the males have.
ZippiesPal
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Im no expert
She looks great to me. Zippy is kind of a brick red color, but he is only a little older than six months old. They get more color as they mature. Time and good care will tell.
There is so much information on this website. Read it all, study it and do it.
She looks great to me. Zippy is kind of a brick red color, but he is only a little older than six months old. They get more color as they mature. Time and good care will tell.
There is so much information on this website. Read it all, study it and do it.
Psychotic4mb3r
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She's beautiful! What happned to her tail? Just curious 
trdlabs
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She looks awesome to me.
trdlabs
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I see nothing wrong with the tail at all.She's beautiful! What happned to her tail? Just curious
Zen Reptiles
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Hi Alex. I disagree with everyone (as usual lol).
You can use a supplement commercially called Naturose (scientific name is Astaxanthin) which is a dried red algae from around Hawaii.
You can also use dried Marigold (Zeaxanthin and Lutein).
These are high in antioxidants, actually some of the most powerful ones known. They are also color enhancers.
Allen Repashy has a commercial mix of these that are all combined called SuperPig. The Naturose affects reds, and the Marigold affects Yellows.
So over time, you will notice a difference in the intensity of the color. This is a trick the reptile community has adopted from fish keeping, and is relatively unknown still, I think it will become as common as using calcium in several years.
The antioxidant value alone is a great reason to use this dust every day or every other day. I use it with every dusting and I notice that it works really well with my frogs and geckos, but my chams haven't been on it long enough yet to see a difference.
It is a pigment enhancer, so it takes time. If you are consistent, it will improve the colors.
One thing to keep in mind, is that starting the animal on this at a young age (from hatching) has the absolute best results.
edit: paprika also affects yellows, but the SuperPig will be more noticeable. If you DO get paprika, make sure it isn't the hot kind!
edit: Found this as an example for you. This post is frogs supplemented with the color enhancers I mentioned, and go a few posts down by the same user, and you'll see the colors of the frogs 'normally' in captivity: http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/general-discussion/26836-color-enhancers-2.html#post243541
The dart froggers were the first in the herp community to start using color enhancers, so they have the most advice about it if you want to look around that website for more info.
You can use a supplement commercially called Naturose (scientific name is Astaxanthin) which is a dried red algae from around Hawaii.
You can also use dried Marigold (Zeaxanthin and Lutein).
These are high in antioxidants, actually some of the most powerful ones known. They are also color enhancers.
Allen Repashy has a commercial mix of these that are all combined called SuperPig. The Naturose affects reds, and the Marigold affects Yellows.
So over time, you will notice a difference in the intensity of the color. This is a trick the reptile community has adopted from fish keeping, and is relatively unknown still, I think it will become as common as using calcium in several years.
The antioxidant value alone is a great reason to use this dust every day or every other day. I use it with every dusting and I notice that it works really well with my frogs and geckos, but my chams haven't been on it long enough yet to see a difference.
It is a pigment enhancer, so it takes time. If you are consistent, it will improve the colors.
One thing to keep in mind, is that starting the animal on this at a young age (from hatching) has the absolute best results.
edit: paprika also affects yellows, but the SuperPig will be more noticeable. If you DO get paprika, make sure it isn't the hot kind!
edit: Found this as an example for you. This post is frogs supplemented with the color enhancers I mentioned, and go a few posts down by the same user, and you'll see the colors of the frogs 'normally' in captivity: http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/general-discussion/26836-color-enhancers-2.html#post243541
The dart froggers were the first in the herp community to start using color enhancers, so they have the most advice about it if you want to look around that website for more info.
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OldSkoolxReasons
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Brock, do you have any pictures of female panthers that those supplements have actually made more colorful? I'm just curious. I would like to try it if it actually works. I know paprika works with dart frogs because I use it on mine every once in awhile but I don't see it as necessary to use one a panther chameleon who's colors don't fade as much as a dart frog and are basically always vibrant. I don't think I have a male chameleon who's color I am not happy enough with to try to enhance it. But if it works, it works 
Justin
Justin
Zen Reptiles
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No I don't have any pics of any chameleons where color enhancers were used. I know they work on my crested geckos, especially the babies.
Panther chameleons 'grow into' their colors, so we wouldn't see any fading because they start out normal and then fire up after a bunch of sheds.
Supplementing with color enhancers BEFORE this is what would make the difference. I notice that it's easy to get amazing colors in my crested geckos if I start them out from hatchlings, but although my adults do have improved color, it's not as extreme as the babies.
This would be a long experiment for panthers, hopefully I can do it sooner than later.
Panther chameleons 'grow into' their colors, so we wouldn't see any fading because they start out normal and then fire up after a bunch of sheds.
Supplementing with color enhancers BEFORE this is what would make the difference. I notice that it's easy to get amazing colors in my crested geckos if I start them out from hatchlings, but although my adults do have improved color, it's not as extreme as the babies.
This would be a long experiment for panthers, hopefully I can do it sooner than later.
OldSkoolxReasons
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It would be nice to see how it works in chameleons and to see the difference if the supplement is stopped for a few weeks. Maybe thats how all the big breeders get such amazingly vibrant chams I knew there was a super top secret thing behind it. Lol j/k.
Justin
EDIT: And yes I have seen it done with crested and dart frogs, However I have only used paprika on my D. pumilio and my leucs. It works wonders for bringing out color on them. I have been out of the dart frog loop lately and have been selling nearly all of tadpoles and froglets I have been producing to a select few private collectors. Im going to have to get back on dendroboard and check out some others results.
I knew there was a super top secret thing behind it. Lol j/k.Justin
EDIT: And yes I have seen it done with crested and dart frogs, However I have only used paprika on my D. pumilio and my leucs. It works wonders for bringing out color on them. I have been out of the dart frog loop lately and have been selling nearly all of tadpoles and froglets I have been producing to a select few private collectors. Im going to have to get back on dendroboard and check out some others results.
ColorCham427
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Not that females can't be naturally colorful. This is a female mitsio, courtesy of DarkElve.
"thats not a woman...that's a man baby!" (austin power's voice)
thats a shemale or a male... this is my opinion of course!
anyways, females can display more vibrant colors than any male panther. (my opinion) unfortunately, they're only speckles and rarely show all the time. but when they do, it is a stunning display of beautiful colorations. normally come shades of violet, purple, pinks, and sometimes blues!
the colorations that truely shimmer are the speckles on their cheeks!
Zen Reptiles
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Is that REALLY a female? I've never seen a female like that.
WC? CB? WTF? lol
WC? CB? WTF? lol
OldSkoolxReasons
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I know,I have seen the pictures of her before. That is the most amazing female I have ever seen. I wish I had a male that even looked like that. I wonder if that females genetics will pass onto the females she produces? That would be insane.
Justin
Justin
Red Island
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That picture is just too good to be possible. That looks like a Photoshop female to me.
