What should I put in his cage

very young chams have tendancies to eat dirt and bark, this may cause an impaction and kill him. Because of this, i dont reccomend live plants for chams under 5 months. Just look around for some silk plants and soak them for 15 minutes in a bucket of 15% bleach solution. Rinse untill you cant smell bleach on them. And make sure it is unscented regular bleach.
 
I wouldn't recommend anything but real safe non toxic plants for a baby veiled... They will eat fake leaves/vines if they can somtimes. (way worse than a little organic fertilizer free dirt) Not worth it in my opinion.
 
Lizardlover said:
Thats fine then, but make sure you clean it regularly, again, your chameleon would really benefit from a live plant in there.
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Ok Ive changed the light, bought some calcium dust for the mill worms I have and crickets!

I couldn't get the plant you were talking about at home depot or petco, And the one I did find was way to big for my cage, also the lady said they were possessions
 
You can find pothos any place right now and it will fit your cage.
You can also order from LLLreptile.com a small ficus.

Don't forget the reptisun 5.0 liner bulb too.
After all, you are starting out with a two week old, and we don't want ya to hit a few too many whelp eggs and do a Leroy Jenkins. :eek:

Harry
 
I will make it easy for you. You will need:

- UVB light fixture, you can get a cheap one at walmart.
- Reptisun 5.0 UVB linear tube. This is the #1 recommended UVB light to use, it is the only one to be proven safe.
- Pothos, you can find them practically anywhere now.
-Vines, fake or real. I am fortunate enough to have wild grape vines around my house.
- Phosphorus free/ D3 free calcium, recommended brands are repcal or zoo med repticalcium.
- Calcium with D3, also recommend repcal or zoo med repticalcium.
- A multivitamin/mineral supplement, recommended brand herptivite.
- You will have to ask about the supplementing schedule for babies but an adult will need Calcium w/o D3 every other day (every feeding), Calcium w/ D3 twice a month, and multvitamin once a month.
- Cover the water bowl with screen so the cham can't drink out of it, and cover the substrate with screen also as a precaution.
- A spray bottle for misting around 5 times a day.
- Reptile Water purifier drops
- Small crickets! Do not feed mealworms! You can also try phoenix worms for a variety.
- Gutload. A powdered gutload such as cricket crack is good, but fresh veggies such as carrots, dandilion greens, collard greens, pears, apples, bananas, and some other safe foods are a must. Whatever you can get. You have to gutload your feeders the day before feeding so they are packed full of nutrients.

LISTEN to everyone on here, they will be the only thing between you having a healthy growing cham and having a dead cham, sad but true. Almost all petstores don't know jack squat about chameleons.
 
justjumpit621 said:
I will make it easy for you. You will need:

- UVB light fixture, you can get a cheap one at walmart.
- Reptisun 5.0 UVB linear tube. This is the #1 recommended UVB light to use, it is the only one to be proven safe.
- Pothos, you can find them practically anywhere now.
-Vines, fake or real. I am fortunate enough to have wild grape vines around my house.
- Phosphorus free/ D3 free calcium, recommended brands are repcal or zoo med repticalcium.
- Calcium with D3, also recommend repcal or zoo med repticalcium.
- A multivitamin/mineral supplement, recommended brand herptivite.
- You will have to ask about the supplementing schedule for babies but an adult will need Calcium w/o D3 every other day (every feeding), Calcium w/ D3 twice a month, and multvitamin once a month.
- Cover the water bowl with screen so the cham can't drink out of it, and cover the substrate with screen also as a precaution.
- A spray bottle for misting around 5 times a day.
- Reptile Water purifier drops
- Small crickets! Do not feed mealworms! You can also try phoenix worms for a variety.
- Gutload. A powdered gutload such as cricket crack is good, but fresh veggies such as carrots, dandilion greens, collard greens, pears, apples, bananas, and some other safe foods are a must. Whatever you can get. You have to gutload your feeders the day before feeding so they are packed full of nutrients.

LISTEN to everyone on here, they will be the only thing between you having a healthy growing cham and having a dead cham, sad but true. Almost all petstores don't know jack squat about chameleons.
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Im not completely stupid but I could tell when I asked the chick at the store when I went back that she didnt know to much, she did give me calcium supplements with d3 in it. She did say that the red light was what I was suppose to use I did put a house light in the cage for a basking spot. The UVB light is a Zila 13 watt, and why dont I feed it mealworms?
 
LeeroyJenkins said:
Im not completely stupid but I could tell when I asked the chick at the store when I went back that she didnt know to much, she did give me calcium supplements with d3 in it. She did say that the red light was what I was suppose to use I did put a house light in the cage for a basking spot. The UVB light is a Zila 13 watt, and why dont I feed it mealworms?
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No zilla. It is my to knowledge that those have had many problems, causeing blindness, burns, and death. You really need a tube UVB bulb, you can not be cheap when it comes to chameleons. The person at the store is wrong, plain and simple. Red heat bulbs do not give off the same light as soft white house bulbs. The basking temp during the day needs to be in the low 80's for a baby. At night turn off all heat so it can regulate it's body temp to the 60's. Buy everything on the list and you will be set and will have a happy, healthy chameleon.
 
LeeroyJenkins said:
Im going to look every were for the light you have told me about 2marow, should I turn this shitty light off at night and keep the basking one on. Would it be ok for kush to go without it for tonight and 2marow if it ment saving his eyes!
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Turn both lights off at night so he can sleep, with most chams any source of light will keep them up ( lucky for me my Leopold is a heavy sleeper). He will be okay without the UVB for a couple days, just keep it off. They are fairly easy to find, they come in 18", 24", and 48" I believe so make sure your fixture is the right size for the bulb you buy. You may be able to find them cheap on LLLreptile.com and have it rush delivered but it may just be cheaper to get one at a local pet store. The fixtures you can find at any hardware store, something like this would work great http://www.homedepot.com/Lighting-F...splay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053 just make sure you take the plastic or glass off, UVB can not go through it.

By the way this is the bulb you are looking for http://www.google.com/products/cata...log_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CCMQ8gIwAA#

and on a side note, you have a veiled chameleon right? Are you positive it is a male? Males have little nubs on the backs of their hind feet called spurs. Females don't. If it is a female, you have some other things to worry about also.
 
LeeroyJenkins said:
...and why dont I feed it mealworms?
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Forgot to answer that. Mealworms have little nutritional value, they do not hold gutload well, and they are composed of mostly chitin which is their hard, hard to digest exoskeleton. Feeding these can cause impaction, especially in such a small chameleon, and incase you don't know, that means they can not poop and this is serious and fatal if left untreated.
 
justjumpit621 said:
Turn both lights off at night so he can sleep, with most chams any source of light will keep them up ( lucky for me my Leopold is a heavy sleeper). He will be okay without the UVB for a couple days, just keep it off. They are fairly easy to find, they come in 18", 24", and 48" I believe so make sure your fixture is the right size for the bulb you buy. You may be able to find them cheap on LLLreptile.com and have it rush delivered but it may just be cheaper to get one at a local pet store. The fixtures you can find at any hardware store, something like this would work great http://www.homedepot.com/Lighting-F...splay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053 just make sure you take the plastic or glass off, UVB can not go through it.

By the way this is the bulb you are looking for http://www.google.com/products/cata...log_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CCMQ8gIwAA#

and on a side note, you have a veiled chameleon right? Are you positive it is a male? Males have little nubs on the backs of their hind feet called spurs. Females don't. If it is a female, you have some other things to worry about also.
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Ok thanks for the info on the bulb I need, he looks passed out right now, he's had a rough day poor guy lol. So I should turn off the 60 watt light now and turn it on in the morning? it gets really cold in my room at night so turning it off might not be a good idea. I would say it gets around the 65's to 60's at night, If I keep my heater on it will stay warm in the 70's some were.
 
LeeroyJenkins said:
Im not completely stupid but I could tell when I asked the chick at the store when I went back that she didnt know to much, she did give me calcium supplements with d3 in it. She did say that the red light was what I was suppose to use I did put a house light in the cage for a basking spot. The UVB light is a Zila 13 watt, and why dont I feed it mealworms?
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petstores in general dont know much about their exotics regardless, i absolutely hate seeing chams and other exotics sold in stores. although infrareds are and may be used in occasionall situations. but as everyone on here is telling you, scrap it, its for places with unbelievable low temperatures at night. zilla cfl lights are garbage, exo-terras arent bad. i trust them but thats jmo. always get the latest production of lights for assured quality. shes right she gave you the right calcium . with D3, its right for only a couple times a month. for babies i would give it maybe 3 times a month as opposed to 2 for adults. but thats JMO. you dont want to feed mealworms to a little guy because the exo skeleton will be too hard, it may choke and die, or become impacted and die. i would trust wax worms around 4 months for extra fat, their nice and squishy! your local nersery should sell like 4 or 6" pothos, schefflera (umbrella) or ficus'. but to my knowledge, im not sure how a baby would take eating plants. but heres a tip *THINK WILD*. if you can find a small hibiscus plant like 6-9'' then score, your golded. this all only my opinion, but hope it helps great. the more foilage the more your humidity will stable. just remember, humidity will ALWAYS be low almost extreamly low near the top of the cage where the lights are, but will increase to your perfect levels as you go down more, just mist the lower half good to keep it there, but dont neglect the upper, mist it good (both parts) 2-3 times 4 if needed, really well. good luck with your guy
 
LeeroyJenkins said:
Ok thanks for the info on the bulb I need, he looks passed out right now, he's had a rough day poor guy lol. So I should turn off the 60 watt light now and turn it on in the morning? it gets really cold in my room at night so turning it off might not be a good idea. I would say it gets around the 65's to 60's at night, If I keep my heater on it will stay warm in the 70's some were.
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It is supposed to go into the 60's, that is a good thing. All heat and light out. Lights should be on 12 hours a day and off 12 hours a night.
 
justjumpit621 said:
It is supposed to go into the 60's, that is a good thing. All heat and light out. Lights should be on 12 hours a day and off 12 hours a night.
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thank you sir, the pet store girl really dosent no anything....She told me to keep that red light I had in there on all night...keep it running 24/7 I should speak with her boss...
 
LeeroyJenkins said:
thank you sir, the pet store girl really dosent no anything....She told me to keep that red light I had in there on all night...keep it running 24/7 I should speak with her boss...
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Just to correct I am a female :p But you are very welcome. Yes you should, although I don't know if they would do anything. Many pet stores are stubborn and do not take constructive critisism well :rolleyes:
 
justjumpit621 said:
Just to correct I am a female :p But you are very welcome. Yes you should, although I don't know if they would do anything. Many pet stores are stubborn and do not take constructive critisism well :rolleyes:
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then Ill tell peta to come take all there pets and blow that store up LOL

And thank you miss :)
 
Hey Leeroy,
You should get a lamp timer from walmart, home depot, or lowes to keep your lights on a regular cycle. You should be able to get one for less than $10. This will be much better for your cham and much easier for you. I usually time my lights to come on when the sun is coming up and off at sundown. Good luck
 
Hi leroy welcome and good luck with your little guy. Please understand that the advise you are getting is all 90% accurate and 10% opinion. It is VERY clear that this is your first chameleon and you should open to hear these suggestions and just do what you are advised. I am in no way trying to be rude i just am trying to help you. Most of us here have many chameleons and have made all of these mistakes ourselves. Learn from our mistakes and experience and you will have a killer chameleon, i promise!! I think an updated video of your changes would help for future posts but from what i have read here is my opinion/suggestions. replace the soil for a potted plant. get rid of the bowl cause the water will become infested with bacteria. If you were usin it as a catch for your dripper then have it drip into the potted plant. The little guy would rather drink off the wet leaves anyhow. this will also aid in humidity and cover for hiding. JUNK THAT BULB. use it for parties and on Halloween, not in the enclosure. And with Veileds, 68-70 at night isnt too bad. should be fine there. I dont think the cage is too big, just make sure he isnt having any problems hunting and catching prey items. since he is little i would recommend a clear feeder cup be placed near his favorite spot with 4 or 5 crickets. This will allow you to know exactly how much he is eating. dust w calcium 2 times weekly and calcium+d3 1 time every other week. Please more pics and close up of 'em.
Believe it or not, you are really not too far from getting it perfect. just head our warnings and youll be fine. Good luck bud
 
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