wild caught senegal chameleon

[shineru]

his arriving tomorrow, but am pretty pits off that his wild caught.
I knew i ran the risk but i though they were from a private breeder, but his not -__- now am worry that i wont provide him with enough resources, has anyone have experience with these in the past?

I'm thinking of a bird cage so i can have him outside my window during the day time, so he can get proper sun light.. idontknow what do you guys think the proper care for him should be?

 

[ataraxia]

Whats your complete plan of care? Fill this out https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-ask-help-66/

Ask the person you are getting the cham from. when they received him/her and did they treat for parasites and if so with what? If they did, Ask if they ran a fecal or shot gun treatment?

Best course of action is to be sure everything is correct with husbandry before he/she gets here. As soon as you see the first droppings take it in for analysis for parasites (you dont need to take the chameleon in for this). If the parasite count is over loaded the vet will tell you and you will need to treat accordingly. Fecal and Water, water, water is your first priority.

 

[Slug]

Who did you get it from?

 

[shineru]

is call reptiles underground is located in florida , does anyone know about them? and i dont think this people know anything about them

 

[pssh]

Always check the BOI on faunaclassifieds before you make a reptile related purchase. They have reviews of many breeders and stores. You cant ask about businesses on here though.

 

[shineru]

Always check the BOI on faunaclassifieds before you make a reptile related purchase. They have reviews of many breeders and stores. You cant ask about businesses on here though.

BIO on fauna classifieds ? whats that and why cnt i ask about bussines in here? thanks for your opinion tho!

 

[Trace]

BIO on fauna classifieds ? whats that and why cnt i ask about bussines in here? thanks for your opinion tho!

There are many reasons we don’t allow breeder and individual review threads on Chameleon Forums. Primarily it’s a moderation nightmare. Unfortunately most of those kinds of threads tend to be negatively charged and can quickly escalate into bickering, finger pointing and name calling. Good reputations can easily be damaged by an inadvertent comment derived from rumours and innuendo even from parties not directly involved. Chameleon Forums is here to educate and offer support within the community, not to be a part of the drama that is often associated with it.

There is a website equipped to deal with these types of problems and they have certain standards in place to prove or disprove any accusations between the parties involved. It is called the Board of Inquiry located at Fauna Classifieds. I strongly recommend that you check the respective forums before you purchase to verify whether the breeder has a positive reputation or not.
American BOI: http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=13
Canadian BOI: http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=614
International BOI: http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=884

If anyone has any suggestions on how we could implement something like this here please do not hesitate to send me a private message.

Thanks,
Trace

 

[shineru]

Pist off to the extan

so after all the hustle it took me to get him home, cause permanently shipping address was wrong -___- its was soo freacking horrible, they put 2 bricks of " plantation soil " when i ask for eco eart and on top of that they just put in a brown paper bag wich was next to two brick -__- like his not gunna get squish by the bricks -___- ohh mannqq and when i took him out there was shit everywhere and was white and black deffenaly horrible coloration >=l

most deffenaly never ordering from them

they try to tell me the bag is safer than anything else and is less stressful for him and i tould him if he was that concern about him been stressful than he shouldnt had never took him out the wild to begging with -____-


So pisst offf >_< God only knows how much i hate humans at times, i'll posted pics of him so u guys can tell me wa u think i shld do with him

deff no money back for this pet since he " was sitting in the back of the truck all day "

by the way how do i sex them they say his a male but i herd female are bigger than males?

 

[shineru]

i have a feeling this is a female if not a old adult male, since they caught in the wild no one really knows

 

[ataraxia]

it appears to be male

brown paper bags is how i ship animals. only other way i prefer is in a cloth bag.

If those poo's are still fresh or moist atleast. GET THEM TO A VET NOW!@ That will be one of the worries tackled.

 

[shineru]

it appears to be male

brown paper bags is how i ship animals. only other way i prefer is in a cloth bag.

If those poo's are still fresh or moist atleast. GET THEM TO A VET NOW!@ That will be one of the worries tackled.

yeah but the way they set it up was inside a box with 2 bricks, dont you think that could of squish him?

& yea am already on it thats the first thing am going to get to do this weekend, but is there a general way to sex them like vields ? & i herd they are poor c.b

he seem super sweet tho specialy for a wild caught

 

[ataraxia]

I would not handle him except when it is necessary. i would not ship with two bricks of eco earth. With that said he looks to be in ok shape despite that. i wouldnt dwell on the negativity. Put that to the past and start giving this boy hat you have as an good chameleon owner.
You may not get another chanve with a fresh poo. It truly needs to be done ASAP. i dont know how to put it in any other words meaning rush, hurry, expedite, promptly....

 

[Trace]

You may not get another chanve with a fresh poo. It truly needs to be done ASAP. i dont know how to put it in any other words meaning rush, hurry, expedite, promptly....

And sometimes running a dewormer through a debilitated chameleon does more harm than good. I would let him settle in and make sure he is hydrated and eating before hitting him with toxic medications.

 

[ataraxia]

I really dont see the thought of delaying a fecal. Taking the poo in for analysis is only going to help care for the future of this guy. If this guy does indeed have a abnormal load..decent health or even impaired health the need to treat the underlying problem is crucial.

How long should he wait to see if he eats?

im not attacking you or discrediting you at all. Your very knowledgeable when it comes to chameleons. IMO, When it comes to wildcaughts its a time sensitive issue if there is a load.

 

[shineru]

I would not handle him except when it is necessary. i would not ship with two bricks of eco earth. With that said he looks to be in ok shape despite that. i wouldnt dwell on the negativity. Put that to the past and start giving this boy hat you have as an good chameleon owner.
You may not get another chanve with a fresh poo. It truly needs to be done ASAP. i dont know how to put it in any other words meaning rush, hurry, expedite, promptly....

Yea after the petstore trying to put the blame on me i just hang up, now am just worry that he wont survived since his wild caught and ofcorse your wouldn't no one that's a proper breeder would even take such animal out the wild & well lets just say i cought him having his back leg on the air and when i when to grab it to see if he would get on my hand i saw that hes was actually pooping -__- so trust me i got a Fresh example alrite lol
but as soon as i can i shall go to the vet

 

[shineru]

I really dont see the thought of delaying a fecal. Taking the poo in for analysis is only going to help care for the future of this guy. If this guy does indeed have a abnormal load..decent health or even impaired health the need to treat the underlying problem is crucial.

How long should he wait to see if he eats?

im not attacking you or discrediting you at all. Your very knowledgeable when it comes to chameleons. IMO, When it comes to wildcaughts its a time sensitive issue if there is a load.

no ofcorse i understand , i thank you for your help and opinion .
i need help & strait to the point, so i appreciated your post.

I have already made an appointment for this weekend cause the specialized in chameleon should be in, and the last time he wasnt in and i asked them to run a fecal test , they didn't know what i was talking about n tould me to wait for him to come back from vacation

 

[shineru]

And sometimes running a dewormer through a debilitated chameleon does more harm than good. I would let him settle in and make sure he is hydrated and eating before hitting him with toxic medications.

Thanks! deff keeep that in mind

is there any different or special care for him that anyone would suggest ?

 

[Trace]

I really dont see the thought of delaying a fecal. Taking the poo in for analysis is only going to help care for the future of this guy. If this guy does indeed have a abnormal load..decent health or even impaired health the need to treat the underlying problem is crucial.

How long should he wait to see if he eats?

im not attacking you or discrediting you at all. Your very knowledgeable when it comes to chameleons. IMO, When it comes to wildcaughts its a time sensitive issue if there is a load.

You have to remember that Panacur and other dewormers are essentially a poison. Granted the Panacur is relatively safe if dosed incorrectly but it is still a poison. In general wild caught chameleons are malnourished and severely dehydrated so I find that hitting them with doses of dewormers right off does more harm than good as their bodies just can’t handle the dead and dying parasites inside their systems and they end up succumbing themselves.

I prefer the chameleon to be eating and drinking well before I hit them with Panacur as their bodies can withstand the meds and their effects. Panacur is an appetite suppressant so I don’t want to give that to a chameleon that hasn’t eaten in days or weeks. Like you, my first course of action is to water water water and more water. I’ll shower every day, I’ll increase misting times to ensure they get rehydrated. Water will also help flush their systems too. Healthy, gutloaded insects and privacy are also of utmost importance to acclimating a wild caught.

In this case this specimen looks to be okay. I’ve seen much worse in my day. He is covered in plenty bite marks and scratches (those black marks across his back and head) but those will go away with subsequent sheds.

 

[kinyonga]

I have to agree with Trace regarding the chameleon being able to cope with the load of dead parasites. IMHO its better make sure the chameleon is eating and drinking well and to give it some time to settle in before treating the parasites. From what I've been told the number of parasites may decrease if the chameleon is given some time to settle in.

 

[shineru]

You have to remember that Panacur and other dewormers are essentially a poison. Granted the Panacur is relatively safe if dosed incorrectly but it is still a poison. In general wild caught chameleons are malnourished and severely dehydrated so I find that hitting them with doses of dewormers right off does more harm than good as their bodies just can’t handle the dead and dying parasites inside their systems and they end up succumbing themselves.

I prefer the chameleon to be eating and drinking well before I hit them with Panacur as their bodies can withstand the meds and their effects. Panacur is an appetite suppressant so I don’t want to give that to a chameleon that hasn’t eaten in days or weeks. Like you, my first course of action is to water water water and more water. I’ll shower every day, I’ll increase misting times to ensure they get rehydrated. Water will also help flush their systems too. Healthy, gutloaded insects and privacy are also of utmost importance to acclimating a wild caught.

In this case this specimen looks to be okay. I’ve seen much worse in my day. He is covered in plenty bite marks and scratches (those black marks across his back and head) but those will go away with subsequent sheds.

i gotta agreed you do seem to make a point there, that's why a poop example for the vet Saturday morning should be just fine. He seem verry skinny too and a little hydration wont hurt so am going to work on that for him this week, but other than that theres no special needs ? like lets say a Jackson that needs the forger machine? & it's crazy i was wondering why he looked like that but am glad it can e z go away with sum shedding