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[Angelwolf]

Already unclogged hun. He's actually getting better if you bothered to think about what i have said already. He's using his tongue again but after two shoots he stops so he's not fully recovered. I'm still giving him the liquid calcium and powdering the food he eats on his own. A little bit of the formula after the shower because he licks his lips alot to get the excess water.

#1: "Getting better" based on your own knowledge, or based on the opinion of a veterinarian?\
#2: Chameleons should almost never miss their intended target. If he shoots twice, and then gives up, then he is CLEARLY not getting any better.
#3: Are you, or are you not still force feeding him? An animal will gain weight from force feeding, but that doesn't mean it's recovering. Your cham is under weight, at only 70g. It should be more like 100g or more!
#4 Licking his lips "a lot" to get water isn't necessarily good. He should be able to get water droplets from leaves and branches in his enclosure. But then I guess you would have to leave him in there long enough to actually drink....

You really have no idea what you are doing, and are unwilling to listen to the advice given when you ask for it to begin with. All you do is turn around and argue that you know all you need to know, and that your animal is in perfect condition. Sadly, I wish the animal the best of luck in your hands.

 

[CharlieCharmingo]

Hey, hey, there's no need to be rude to me I was simply asking a question because the post goes between he and she but you use she more. So I was just curious. Bite the hands that's biting you, don't bite me.

On a chameleon based note: Slurpy (who im skeptical can be a he/she....but whatever) is looking better from the posts of yore. Still if she is usuing her tongue on her own and drinking on her own then everyone is right in telling you that you shouldn't really be handling her until she is in tip top shape. I'm not saying that because of the "you might be a terrible owner" syndrome going through because I handle Tony everyday so I get it, but because you should just give her some down time even when she wants to come out just be like no dude not today you have to hold down the fort. She has to know she came be left alone and independent for a while without anything happening to her. Even if you want to take her out for some stretching of the legs etc. put her somewhere she will be safe but also where she can be completely independent.

I'm not going to speak on any of the other issues of chameleon care that's been brought up because I'm by no means a professional chameleon owner. However a word of advice, I think people would stop attacking you so much if you would get your story together. If you read through your threads a lot of stuff is very contradicting. Maybe it's not on purpose, but you do seem to go between various story plots and so I think aside from the quality of care that's what I think people are having the most issue with.

 

[phantomchameleon]

#1: "Getting better" based on your own knowledge, or based on the opinion of a veterinarian?\
#2: Chameleons should almost never miss their intended target. If he shoots twice, and then gives up, then he is CLEARLY not getting any better.
#3: Are you, or are you not still force feeding him? An animal will gain weight from force feeding, but that doesn't mean it's recovering. Your cham is under weight, at only 70g. It should be more like 100g or more!
#4 Licking his lips "a lot" to get water isn't necessarily good. He should be able to get water droplets from leaves and branches in his enclosure. But then I guess you would have to leave him in there long enough to actually drink....

You really have no idea what you are doing, and are unwilling to listen to the advice given when you ask for it to begin with. All you do is turn around and argue that you know all you need to know, and that your animal is in perfect condition. Sadly, I wish the animal the best of luck in your hands.

1. The vet
2. He's fine with accuracy. Worded that a bit wrong, whoops. I mean he gets tired of using it after two shots, which means the MBD is still slightly there but it's much better than not shooting at all.
3. I really don't see how he could be honestly? He's always been active, no problems with grip, always standing, only sleeping at night, ect. He seems to be a normal weight for a chameleon his/her size. Please give me more information on this one.
4. I leave him in there for 20-30 minutes.
Jesus christ what's your problem? I'm telling you this because you're all misunderstanding what im saying and im actually trying to know what more can I do for him? It seems all your good for is twisting my words and making me seem stubborn and not capable of learning things.
He's not in perfect condition, anyone with two working eyes can see that and especially i can. I wouldn't have asked for help in the first place if i thought he was in perfect condition.

 

[Chameleomom]

All these good people are trying to tell you is...... PLEASE leave he/she alone other than feeding, so they can get well without you handling them or taking them out of the cage. No more out of the cage until they are 100 % well .I do think you should pick a gender and stay with it because the he one minute and the she the next can be very confusing

 

[Angelwolf]

All these good people are trying to tell you is...... PLEASE leave he/she alone other than feeding, so they can get well without you handling them or taking them out of the cage. No more taking them out of the cage until they are 100 % well .I do think you should pick a gender and stay with it because the he one minute and the she the next can be very confusing

Thank you. As I suggested before, if you want a cuddly pet, get a hamster. Chameleons should not be handled as often as you are handling yours (or at least as often as you make it seem). If you ask for help, then be prepared to accept said "help". Stop defending yourself from us, and listen! That's all we are trying to do.

 

[CharlieCharmingo]

Also and I swear this is the very last thing, the 20-30 minutes in is not good. Unless of course you live somewhere hot and take Slurpy outside all the time because the lights provide crucial warmth and uvb that they would get from the sunlight naturally. Plus if you're misting is correct being the cage keeps them at the right humidity levels.

 

[phantomchameleon]

Thank you. As I suggested before, if you want a cuddly pet, get a hamster. Chameleons should not be handled as often as you are handling yours (or at least as often as you make it seem). If you ask for help, then be prepared to accept said "help". Stop defending yourself from us, and listen! That's all we are trying to do.

If you're going to say something about me handling my chameleon even though i said the shower was the first time i've handled him in 5 days, say something to charlie. he just said he handles his cham daily. And i have been accepting it, I'm just seriously bad at explaining situations and i jump all over the place which means i have to explain myself even more. I know you're trying to help but you in particular are seeming really nippy.

 

[RandellTheCham]

I just come to this thread for the giggles

 

[ZacharyLeesWife]

I'm trying to stay out of this as much as possible, but I am going on the record that I believe that the he/she thing is complete and total bull@$!t. You have a FEMALE.

 

[Goose502]

I agree, looks female. It's like listening to a parent that thinks their child is extra special. Please do us all a favor, stop posting! You've succeeded in frustrating dozens of very capable, some professional chameleon keepers, hell, even a PhD thinks your full of crap. Like I've said before, get that poor lizard to someone capable of caring for it. You've gotten a rise out of many of us, now do the right thing and focus on your school. You've got a lot to learn.

 

[KeopiCat]

If you're going to say something about me handling my chameleon even though i said the shower was the first time i've handled him in 5 days, say something to charlie. he just said he handles his cham daily.

Charlie may handle their chameleons everyday, but there's a major difference: Charlie's chameleons are healthy.

 

[CharlieCharmingo]

Charlie may handle their chameleons everyday, but there's a major difference: Charlie's chameleons are healthy.

Thank you for defending my honor Keopi. I'll go into battle with you any day friend.

 

[phantomchameleon]

Here. Have a genetics log i started mainly for class. Complain about my knowledge of reptile genetics and care over there https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/genetics-class-log.154392/

Even better: PM me. Talk with me privately. I'm forgiving when it's one on one and not twenty on one.

 

[wavingsnail]

Dolt.

 

[phantomchameleon]

Dolt.

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[KeopiCat]

Thank you for defending my honor Keopi. I'll go into battle with you any day friend.

Hey, no problem ^-^

 

[wavingsnail]

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Report me.

 

[Angelwolf]

So you can write a paper on genetics. Chameleon husbandry and genetics are worlds apart from one another! If you are looking for attention, you are getting plenty. And if you don't like it, then stop arguing every thing that is said. You have double the eyes and ears, over your mouth for a reason. Use them twice as often as you speak, and you will learn a lot.

 

[Angelwolf]

Also and I swear this is the very last thing, the 20-30 minutes in is not good. Unless of course you live somewhere hot and take Slurpy outside all the time because the lights provide crucial warmth and uvb that they would get from the sunlight naturally. Plus if you're misting is correct being the cage keeps them at the right humidity levels.

Agreed.

 

[Nursemaia]

Report me.

Lol. He's guilty of breaking rules too on other posts and have been warned by moderators. Boohoohoo.