Help ID fecal float photos

[chameleongirl2]

wow! how did you get those!!! unfortunatly i cant help

 

[Texas Ranger]

The specific gravity of the solution is determined by the type and amount of the salt. It's the specific gravity that makes the eggs of parasites either float or sink. So if you make your own make sure you know what specific gravity you need for the type of eggs you're looking for, and measure it when you make your solution. Otherwise you'll get lots of false negatives.

LOL I am not making my own...but I do have a specific gravity analyser from making beer

I got my info from the zoo vet witch I have know for a year or so and I trust them 100% and I always get my vet to check my chams once they are clean or are being treated and my test are the same as hers and she did some looking into my way and has starting useing this mix too. Plus a smear. And I have also done my own testing with a solution I baught compared to my solution I make they work and test the same....JMO.

 

[coldbloodedAL]

The specific gravity of the solution is determined by the type and amount of the salt. It's the specific gravity that makes the eggs of parasites either float or sink. So if you make your own make sure you know what specific gravity you need for the type of eggs you're looking for, and measure it when you make your solution. Otherwise you'll get lots of false negatives.

If this is the case, How come it doesnt mention anything about the gravity of the fecasol on the website Rob mentioned? Is it just a common solution? I have no experience with any of this really, but I will be getting a scope and equipment soon. Im just trying to figure out all this prior to.

 

[CNorton]

Wow, am I late to the party!!! This thread is a gold mine. Thanks Rob, Dez, Dave, and others for the input.


My anatomy professor wants to offload some microscopes and promises to give me a good deal. I think I'll be picking up some supplies shortly, using this thread as a reference of course!

 

[Dave Weldon]

...Did you use it on your bio vine too or did you just boil them?

Howdy Rob,

Sorry, I don't recall whether or not I used 40 volume H2O2 on the bio vines or not . It is worth a try .

Here is a link to a tidbit of info on Virkon S: http://www.pigeonracingpigeon.com/2011/06/29/secrets-of-a-successful-pigeon-fancier-part-1/

I might have skipped Virkon S at the time because it didn't list any activity with parasites. That may be just because they didn't test it with parasites but it is likely to have some good capabilities there anyway. If I recall right, same thing goes for Nolvasan. Years ago, I even called the Nolvasan mfgr once to figure out the differences between the generic Nolvasan "chlorhexidine Gluconate" and the official Nolvasan "chlorhexadine diacetate". There are some but as far as chameleons and parasites goes, not anything worth noting.

 

[ferretinmyshoes]

If this is the case, How come it doesnt mention anything about the gravity of the fecasol on the website Rob mentioned? Is it just a common solution? I have no experience with any of this really, but I will be getting a scope and equipment soon. Im just trying to figure out all this prior to.

It is listed. Fecasol is commercially made to their brand specification so it's always the same specific gravity (with minor variation), which makes it easy and consistent to use. It's the most commonly used one by vets since that specific gravity is good for identifying hooks, rounds, whips, tapes, giardia - the most common parasites of dogs and cats. Now if you were looking for lungworms or some of the large animal parasites you'd need to use a different solution, like zinc sulfate or sugar water (which floats flukes).

http://www.vedco.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=106&Itemid=26 FECA-MED is a standardized ready -to-use solution with specific gravity of 1.25 to 1.30.

 

[coldbloodedAL]

It is listed. Fecasol is commercially made to their brand specification so it's always the same specific gravity (with minor variation), which makes it easy and consistent to use. It's the most commonly used one by vets since that specific gravity is good for identifying hooks, rounds, whips, tapes, giardia - the most common parasites of dogs and cats. Now if you were looking for lungworms or some of the large animal parasites you'd need to use a different solution, like zinc sulfate or sugar water (which floats flukes).

Okay, thanks ferret!

 

[clarkrw3]

Howdy Rob,

Sorry, I don't recall whether or not I used 40 volume H2O2 on the bio vines or not . It is worth a try .

Here is a link to a tidbit of info on Virkon S: http://www.pigeonracingpigeon.com/2011/06/29/secrets-of-a-successful-pigeon-fancier-part-1/

I might have skipped Virkon S at the time because it didn't list any activity with parasites. That may be just because they didn't test it with parasites but it is likely to have some good capabilities there anyway. If I recall right, same thing goes for Nolvasan. Years ago, I even called the Nolvasan mfgr once to figure out the differences between the generic Nolvasan "chlorhexidine Gluconate" and the official Nolvasan "chlorhexadine diacetate". There are some but as far as chameleons and parasites goes, not anything worth noting.

Thanks Dave!! From what I have read Virkon S is VERY effective against common parasites including coccidia but was never tested on them by Du Pont. The combo of sterilizing power with safety of being able to be ingested by at least birds and fish make it very attractive. I picked up some and was planning on using it this weekend but being my wife's birthday I ran out of time. As far as Nolvasan goes, I have that too (and prescribe it daily to patients) but from everything I have read has limited action on parasites thus is a good and safe cleaner but not a sterilizer.



On a side note I was planning on updating this tread with photos today being as I ran 4 samples last night and unless I am blind or plain doing it wrong they all came out clean. Which is great news and bad for this thread all at the same time
I finished the second round of meds this weekend and will have to find time to clean the cages again soon. I am still planning on having my results confirmed by the pros And I will keep testing to make sure I wasn't just catching a moment between life cycles. I honestly was quite surprised I didn't find anything last night and keep checking and rechecking the slides until I was informed it was time for bed

 

[coldbloodedAL]

Thats great they came up clean man! I think I may have to pick up some VirkonS, it sounds like its some pretty good stuff. According to the tracker my supplies should be coming today and my scope tomorrow Hopefully I can get some pics up by tomorrow night.