Not moving!!!!!
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christyo2o2
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prolly was just content with what was on TV, I know when i like teh show im watching i dont wanna move either 
My cham isnt moving either but he has a pretty serious problem we home will be fixed soon. if he stops eating then you want to see a vet like yesterday cuz you have a major issue on your hands if no movement and no eating comes.
My cham isnt moving either but he has a pretty serious problem we home will be fixed soon. if he stops eating then you want to see a vet like yesterday cuz you have a major issue on your hands if no movement and no eating comes.
Senegals are one of the hardest chameleons I know of to take care of... They are probably the cheapest chameleon that gets imported (for the importer), and I don't know of almost any that live beyond about a month in captivity... Sorry to sound depressing, but you shoulda gone with a veiled.
Kent67
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The problem with Senegals is that you can almost be assured they are full of parasites and need to be treated for them. They also receive very little water or food during the capture and export process. Once acclimated they can be pretty hardy from what I understand. At any rate, I've got a female here who's been in captivity for almost 2 years. She's starting to make me think about getting a male just to add them to the list of successfully hatched species.
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I have had well over a dozen Senegals since I have been keeping chameleons and I think I lost two or three soon after I got them...but remember...they were all WC's and most were adults when I got them. Most of those lived for over 3 years with me...some for 5 years.
I don't remember any of them having huge parasite loads. (Even if some where missed in the fecals, the bodies were autopsied and they should have shown up then.)
I have found that one of the keys to keeping them is to make sure that they are well hydrated.
I don't remember any of them having huge parasite loads. (Even if some where missed in the fecals, the bodies were autopsied and they should have shown up then.)
I have found that one of the keys to keeping them is to make sure that they are well hydrated.
christyo2o2
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Maybe this comes from owning my snakes but when I do my hunting for a cham one of the major things i ask is are they wild caught. If they are I refuse to buy it. I only want captive bread animals. I dont want to take anything out of it's natural habitat with thousands of miles to roam and put it into a 3x5 cage. thats just mean!!
herpluva
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How do you know if someone is telling the truth about WC or CB? I was told that most people will save CB just to make the sell. I went to a show weekend before last and some specimens that they said were CB made me wonder. They did not know where they came from or how to care for them other than they were mountain chams that needed more humidity and cooler conditions. How do you know for sure if something is WC or not?
Kent67
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Interesting. This is the first one I've had and was always disinterested in the species because the parasite issue was something that seemed to almost always be mentioned in the literature.
christyo2o2
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buy it from someone who you trust. We have a local pet shop who lives for these things. They are way too cool, smart and loving to all their animals. They sell all kinds of reptiles including crocks and poisonous snakes. As a matter of fact, the live (not fake computer snakes) on "Snakes on a Plane" movie were from his store. They called him and asked him to bring some so he did. So I guess his animals are movie stars??
you gotta find someone you trust and ask them. Most people who actually CARE about animals sell only captive bread.
Very true... I think most people would be shocked to find out that the majority of all chameleons sold are WC.... At any big show, you'll see cages and cages of adult Melleri, adult Flapnecks, adult Deremensis, adult Jacksons, sometimes it's pretty obvious that this stuff is not CBB. Even Jacksons chameleons are not bred commonly enough for big dealers to consistently have CBB's available. Species like Senegals, Gracefuls etc are even less lilely to be CBB, especially when cages full of grown adults are for sale at low prices. Who is raising all these supposedly CBB babies just to sell them for nothing? If you're not buying a baby of these species, I would assume it's WC, no matter what they tell you. Several of the bigger shows have a CBB rule, where they only allow you to sell CBB animals (such as Daytona). Because of that, nobody in that show is going to admit that they have WC animals (even though some of them do).
Panthers and veileds are commonly sold captive bred... Almost anything else I would question unless it was a baby, or unless you were buying an animal that was raised by a private person that you really trust, or a breeder that is known for occasionally hatching oddball species. LLLRep doesn't hatch and raise clutches of "desert side striped chameleons" just to sell them for $19ea LOL...
hairfarm said..."Interesting. This is the first one I've had and was always disinterested in the species because the parasite issue was something that seemed to almost always be mentioned in the literature"..it surprises me about not only that but that they are said to be so difficult to keep in captivity at all. I have found other species that people say are not difficult to keep to be more difficult in my experience. I think part of it has to do with where we live and what husbandry we adopt. (I don't know quite how to explain this.)
