Preparing for my first chameleon, tips appreciated

[Traildrifterphalanx]

She's also half asleep

 

[Kristen Wilkins]

She's also half asleep

She like DAD quit taking pictures and let me go to bed lol .

 

[Traildrifterphalanx]

Lol, she was asleep in the pothos, I scooped her out to put her to bed, but she clung so I kept her and annoyed her with a photo lol

 

[Kristen Wilkins]

Lol, she was asleep in the pothos, I scooped her out to put her to bed, but she clung so I kept her and annoyed her with a photo lol

Cutie

 

[Andee]

She has such a cute grumpy face. But her eyes still look like they could use extra moisture so I definitely think getting the lubrication will help. It will help with cleaning her eyes herself.

 

[Kristen Wilkins]

She has such a cute grumpy face. But her eyes still look like they could use extra moisture so I definitely think getting the lubrication will help. It will help with cleaning her eyes herself.

Agreed

 

[Traildrifterphalanx]

I'm hoping I'm paranoid but wanted to run this by you guys.

Mamool has not been showing a lot of signs of a RI but she had some red/gooey discharge in her nose this morning and some mucus on the edge of her lip. She allowed me to clean both out, the nose discharge was not a lot, just seemed like a red ish booger, and the mucus on her lip wasn't a lot.

She has not been gaping. She's taken a few deep breaths but not followed with any popping or crackling sound the way JaJa's was. She's done some moody little puff and mouth openings to me sometimes, but nothing alarming, and she did these at the vet and no comment was made other than acting like she was angry with them.

The other signs though are being lethargic/eyes closed, which she has been doing but this seems more attributed to her eye irritation. She'll sit with her eyes closed but will look at me when I pass by, and she does move around but isn't super active. Since the last pooping episode her appetite seems to have dropped quite a bit, but she is drinking and watches her food, just hasn't been eating any the past 2 days.

I'd hate to pretend it's nothing, but I'd also hate to have to run her to the vet already if I'm just paranoid.
I'm picking up the eye lubricant after work today to start on that.

 

[Traildrifterphalanx]

worth noting it was only her left nostril that had the goober

 

[Kristen Wilkins]

worth noting it was only her left nostril that had the goober

I would take her in . I know that's not what you want to hear . Runny nose , lack of appetite and eyes closed through out the day I would be concered . URI turn quick to pneumonia . How is her humility? I know her basking temps are good .

 

[Traildrifterphalanx]

Depending on when she is misted, it ranges from 40%-80%

 

[Traildrifterphalanx]

I've reached out to have her seen again

 

[Andee]

Yes I agree take her in as soon as possible. Even if it isn't an RI, something is going on and she doesn't feel good, all of these signs are huge red flags that she needs to be seen. I will keep my fingers crossed you can get her seen soon.

 

[Kristen Wilkins]

I've reached out to have her seen again

Excellent even if it's nothing you will feel so much better . She has signs of something going on . I've brought Frances in and at time she was ok but a week later she had an URI . I know she's new just a week or so but trust your gut .

 

[Traildrifterphalanx]

It's unfortunate that I am in a situation where I cannot tell the difference between healthy and unhealthy behaviors. Clearly some things are red flags, but from JaJa to Mamool, both have been under the weather and worse since getting them.

Is there anything specifically that I might be doing wrong?

 

[Andee]

ummm

https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/how-to-ask-for-help.66

Fill that out again just so we can check, but I feel neither one of them came from the best circumstances so, both seemed relatively sick when you got them? If I remember correctly?

 

[Kristen Wilkins]

It's unfortunate that I am in a situation where I cannot tell the difference between healthy and unhealthy behaviors. Clearly some things are red flags, but from JaJa to Mamool, both have been under the weather and worse since getting them.

Is there anything specifically that I might be doing wrong?

I know she does not like the misting but dehydration causes a host of issues . I would invest in an automatic Mister . Chameleon are very specialized care . The other thing is if JaJa did have a URI Mamool could have gotten it same enclosure. Please don't Think you are doing this . @Andee is an amazing keeper and so is @kinyonga and both have been on this thread . She very lucky to have you because you do keep a very close eye on her and can get her to vet .

 

[Kristen Wilkins]

ummm

https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/how-to-ask-for-help.66

Fill that out again just so we can check, but I feel neither one of them came from the best circumstances so, both seemed relatively sick when you got them? If I remember correctly?

Absolutely correct !!. I was just about to add ask for help .

 

[Traildrifterphalanx]

Chameleon Info:

• Your Chameleon - Veiled Chameleon, 4 months, about a week or so
• Handling - daily interactions
• Feeding - nymph roaches, small supers, small hornworms, waxworms
• Supplements - Calcium w and w/o D3, Reptivite
• Watering - drip, spray misting
• Fecal Description - brown, white urates so far. Negative for parasites
• History - Purchased from chain store w/ eye irritation and lip deformity.

Cage Info:

• Cage Type - screen 18x18x36
• Lighting - basking 60w incandescent bulb, reptisun T5 5.0
• Temperature - 72-90 bottom to top. Hotter if she chooses to stick to the top screen
• Humidity - 40%-80% depending on misting. Misting ups humidity, done several times daily
• Plants - dracaena, hibiscus, pothos
• Placement - near fish tank, near television. Probably about 5' tall from floor
• Location - Green Bay, WI

Current Problem - Eye closing, some mucus discharge, lack of appetite

 

[Kristen Wilkins]

It's unfortunate that I am in a situation where I cannot tell the difference between healthy and unhealthy behaviors. Clearly some things are red flags, but from JaJa to Mamool, both have been under the weather and worse since getting them.

Is there anything specifically that I might be doing wrong?

And I can't disagree more you do know their is something going on you did with JaJa and you do with Mamool . Rehabbing a chameleon is not easy . With Mamool no one knows how she was kept , how healthy mom was . That all trickles down to the babies .

 

[Traildrifterphalanx]

I stopped home on lunch.
She still didn't eat, she took a poop, couldn't find the urate, and she's gaping a bit.

I'm letting the vet know it's urgent