Trioceros johnstoni bwindi

Yes I did. Two pair actually and I got to fondle everyone else's too :) They are bigger than I thought they would be, going to have to move them to bigger cages soon.

Can't wait to see their colors come in.

Great to hear,i wish you all the success with them:)
Colors come after some days/weeks ,when they are happy in their new homes;)
 
It was a challenge to figure out the difference between the two locals. Hope I got it right. The males are pretty stout. I'm happy with what I received. Thanks Jurgen.

I think the climate where I live should be ideal for them.
 
It was a challenge to figure out the difference between the two locals. Hope I got it right. The males are pretty stout. I'm happy with what I received. Thanks Jurgen.

I think the climate where I live should be ideal for them.

Pictures or it never happened ;)
 
It was a challenge to figure out the difference between the two locals. Hope I got it right. The males are pretty stout. I'm happy with what I received. Thanks Jurgen.

I think the climate where I live should be ideal for them.

Yes its not easy to see when they dont color up,Bwindi's have the blue eye females have a blue line after the eye.
Rwenzori never have blue in the eye females are more green,males can go from red,orange to green even yellow(head color)
Always good to keep contact between keepers if one got a wrong one you can always switch.
And yes people who can put them in the sun have the prime conditions(they love it:)
I wish everybody the best with the animals,they are wc so not as easy as a cb pardalis or yemen so you always need a bit of luck.
We lost a few animals during quarantine but lets say 90% was doing great and we kept them for 2 months and they where eating like pigs ha ha.
I always like to see pics but give them some time to settle(always nice to see my old buddy's:)
 
Fondle? Interesting choice of words after you said we couldn't touch yours on page 1. :)


Oops I got that wrong. . Cold blooded Al said that on page 1. My bad.
Yes I did. Two pair actually and I got to fondle everyone else's too :) They are bigger than I thought they would be, going to have to move them to bigger cages soon.

Can't wait to see their colors come in.
 
My cages have been ready and waiting for some time now!!! I can't wait to get my pair of Bwindi. Congrats to everyone that have already gotten them.
 
Thanks for the understanding.
I hope you can understand this is not in our hands,because wc are not longer aloud to leave Uganda only farmed animals can go out but paperwork need to go true and ex tern CITES commission what takes extra time.

We still waiting for all paperwork,because its not longer aloud to export wc animals from Uganda.
Only farm bred can go out but they need to go by a special CITES commission who is checking if all permits are ok,the farm got all paperwork,breeding animals are legal,farm bred animals are in regulations etc...

Green light was given a few days ago for the import,animals will be collected a few days before shipping(farmed) so the quality will be perfect!

I wish everybody the best with the animals,they are wc so not as easy as a cb pardalis or yemen so you always need a bit of luck.

So are these farmed animals or wild caughts?
 
The Parents were wc and they raised them on the farm,excuse me that i used the wrong therm...Jesus some of you guys need to relax and do normal:confused:
 
The Parents were wc and they raised them on the farm,excuse me that i used the wrong therm...Jesus some of you guys need to relax and do normal:confused:

Pardon us. We know all the difficulties of exporting out of Africa from your posts Jurgen. However when advertising arrival after 3 months from initial payment then the shipments arrives after/about 12 months. That is bound to have some people a bit uptight. It is great that their here now though.
 
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Pardon us. We know all the difficulties of exporting out of Africa from your posts Jurgen. However when advertising arrival after 3 months from initial payment then they the shipments arrives after/about 12 months. That is bound to have some people a bit uptight. It is great that their here now though.
Okay i understand that also sorry for that i dident meant i bad:eek:
 
If it is accurate that Uganda is only allowing "farmed" animals to be exported then that is how they were represented to get approval for export. Should we believe these highland species are being bred successfully in communal cages in what appears to be a lowland back yard? Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the xenorhina too small to ship in December and full grown adults in February when they arrived in Europe? "Farmed" animals from Tanzania and Madagascar (years ago) were coming out as subadults. The "farmed" animals from Kenya and Uganda are exported as full-grown adults. Technically, these are probably both.

Ugandan chameleon shipments have historically been hit or miss. Some shipments the animals come in and do great while other shipments have very high mortality in the first month or two (I worked with Johnston's first in 1991). It looks like this is one of the good/healthy shipments but I think Jurgen is spot on in advising these be treated like fresh wc, regardless of their true hatching or birthing location. Taking that into consideration, I know the wait to receive them has been frustrating but having them acclimate with good food and water in Europe for the last couple months before being selected for re-export is probably a blessing in disguise for what you've all paid for them. Incubation time is short. Let's see some babies from this group by summer!
 
You are suggesting waiting a week or 2 before starting panacure so they are not stressed during the treatment?

For what it is worth. These animals look decently hydrated. If these have been in the care of fellow in europe for some time now. The couple days or even week trip from europe to your home isnt going to cause severe dehydration warranting the need to wait to treat. Panacur is absorbed very little in the stomach and intestines. The risk of causing organ damage is like winning the lottery. Other drugs that are designed to be absorbed to treat parasites. The need to have optimal hydration is pertinent. I cant stress how important it is to treat as early as you can. You dont want to start having problems (eyes or eye closing, lack of an appetite, not drinking) to begin treatment. You want to get this taken care of before signs show up...

If stressing from handling is the issue. If they have an appetite. You can always inject a feeder or two.
 
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