DaChameleonKing
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Ok. I will take a picture of the green leaves i put in there they basically look like dark green leaves it doesn't look like salad at all, but my mom eats it.
I NEED HELP ASAP
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Ok. I will take a picture of the green leaves i put in there they basically look like dark green leaves it doesn't look like salad at all, but my mom eats it.
DaChameleonKing
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The dark green leaves said Vitamin A 270% vitamin C 70% and Calcium 15%. I also moved king from on the ground to the top area of his cage.
DaChameleonKing
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I AM FREAKING OUT RIGHT NOW I was trying to get him back on the branches from his fall after I gave him the medicine. He fell from going on an un sturdy leaf branch and fell. He got a lot of dirt on himself then I tried to put him back up then he fell like 7 more times. I dont know what I should do since he took like 2 3 foot falls and like 4 6 inch falls
Virgil1972
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If he keeps falling I would stop putting him up there. You may want to take him to the vet again to make sure he did not break anything. He probably did not if he has healthy bones. All you can do is give him his vitamins to treat him for his A deficiency, which will take a while to get him back to normal, results will not be immediate.
DaChameleonKing
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I did. He is back at the bottom. He has been there for 5 hours. I was just putting him at the bottom part of the stem of his tree then he would climb up and fall for some reason I wasn't trying to make him fall. I only put him at the top once after his first fall since I wasn't expecting him to go on the same bad leaf branch
Virgil1972
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Is he moving around on the bottom or just laying there?
DaChameleonKing
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He has been laying at the bottom for about 4 hours. He would move a bit then kinda lay down. It's not cause of his fall since he has been doing this since he was sick just not as much as today. Sometimes moving sometimes laying
Virgil1972
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What did the vet tell you to do?
DaChameleonKing
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He just said to give him the medicine for his Vitamin A deficiency. He weighs around 38 grams by the way. I dont know his age so he could be dying of old age maybe. He also has been hanging upsidedown a lot.
Virgil1972
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Was he all ready full grown when you got him?
DaChameleonKing
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Maybe I don't really know. I got him from LLL reptile. He hasn't really grown since so I think I might've gotten him fully grown. I'll measure him right now from horns to the beginning of his tail. He is 5 inches. from end of his horns to the beginning of his tail.
Virgil1972
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With a vitamin A deficiency they will lose their appetite and have a lot of trouble grabbing stuff with their feet. It can also affect his aim with his tongue. Did the vet give you a vitamin drop to give him?
Extensionofgreen
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If you are having to open his mouth and administer meds, I'd use this opportunity to slip in a PROERLY GUTLOADED cricket or two, even better a few fattier food items, such as silkworms, dusted with proper vitamins. Based on the photos of the chameleon 4 months ago, it doesn't appear to be dying of old age. Try getting him some outside time, as well. It's not going to solve his Vitamin A deficiency, but real sun can improve their mood and stimulate the appetite. Do your research, read the key information that was provided on gut loading and FOLLOW IT.
Get him on a proper supplement schedule that includes a product with preformed Vitamin A. I would not dust with vitamins until the stuff from the vet is finished, since too much is as bad as not enough. The information on whether to provide preformed A or rely on gutloading alone is sometimes conflicting, but unfortunately you missed both opportunities to provide vitamin A. In my experience, preformed vitamin A is needed, and I like to use Dendrocare for dart frogs, for montane species, since the dose is lower, safer, and it contains other crucial vitamins and minerals.
Get him on a proper supplement schedule that includes a product with preformed Vitamin A. I would not dust with vitamins until the stuff from the vet is finished, since too much is as bad as not enough. The information on whether to provide preformed A or rely on gutloading alone is sometimes conflicting, but unfortunately you missed both opportunities to provide vitamin A. In my experience, preformed vitamin A is needed, and I like to use Dendrocare for dart frogs, for montane species, since the dose is lower, safer, and it contains other crucial vitamins and minerals.
DaChameleonKing
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I will do that when I give him his medicine tomorrow. I will also watch him go out in my backyard He is still lying down kinda on the ground of his cage.
Extensionofgreen
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I wish you luck. Just be calm, don't expect overnight changes, ensure he's getting fed and watered, by placing food in his mouth, if needed, understand he's under a lot of stress from handling for medication and his illness, and try to provide strategic food items, outdoor time, brush up on your gutloading and supplementation knowledge and implement a more adequate plan of care, going forward. I meant what I said to be helpful and not shaming or blaming, in both posts. I'm sorry you are dealing with the pain of having a sick animal to care for. I've been through similar instances, where had better information been available, illness could have been avoided. In your case, you are lucky to have the information available and people here to provide you with it. 10 years ago, many "experts" treated preformed A like poison and not providing it, even while providing lots of beta carotene-rich gutload ingredients, resulted in the loss of 3 out of 4 CBB melleri chameleons. Sometimes lessons are learned the hard way.
Hopefully your guy is back to himself in 6-8 weeks.
Hopefully your guy is back to himself in 6-8 weeks.
DaChameleonKing
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Ok Thanks. I hope he will better before my vacation. I cant have my friend who has never owned a Chameleon deal with a sick cham. I would hate to miss my vacation for him, but I would for King.
DaChameleonKing
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King has been on the ground of his cage for 1 day now I'm really worried.
Extensionofgreen
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What color is he? Get him outside, in a shaded area, no warmer than 80F. Make sure you are misting the bejeezus out of him, perhaps for 30mins at a time, 3 times a day. Follow other advice, as given before. Without food, he has nothing to draw on for increased strength or activity. He need help, until his vitamin levels have reached a level he can hunt and resume normal function. It's up to you to feed him and administer food, water, and above adequate, favorable conditions, until he gets stronger. Don't hover. Keep him quiet and minimize his stress, since he is getting plenty with daily administration of vitamins.
Virgil1972
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You should sneak a hornworm in his mouth when giving medicine. They are mostly water so it will give him some energy and hydration.
